also, the chashmonaim lived in a time when there could be hasra’ah, and people were afraid in general of beis din. beis din had the capacity to punish, and the torah does not limit that capacity fully, allowing horaas shaah. at that time people were also more knowledgeable and had more awareness of torah. In our time, the chazon ish says that people do not have that, and are regarded as tinokos shenishbu. even those who argued with the chazon ish may agree in our time, because of the absolute horrors of our society. On the other hand, there’s a chance the chazon ish would agree with his dissenters now, because torah is more commonplace and people see frumkeit more than in his time. Who knows? Either way, people educated in the israeli public school system are taught mother’s milk that LGBT are kodesh kedoshim; it’s hard to blame them fully….especially to the point where we’d consider them so liable that we can apply the non-existant law of kanoim pogin to them.
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