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Avi K
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Ujm, are you serious or just a troll? Schlissel is a murderer. Maybe a shoteh, but a murderer. Kanaim pogim bo only refers to certain acts. A woman with a woman is not one of them, especially if it is consensual.

Regarding, the Hashmonaim, after the first generation, they were Tzaddukim. Yanai slaughtered the chachamim and his sons fought a civil war and brought in the Romans. Even so, Rambam says that one of the reasons why we celebrate Chanuka because we had sovereignty for 200 years. The present-day state is the proverbial half a glass. It supports yeshivot and seminaries (more people are learning today than at any time in our history), IDF kitchens are kosher. Shabbat is an official day of rest and chagim are holidays. Most government offices are even closed during Chol haMoed.

Chazal say (Chullin 63b) that the ra’ah is called that because he sits in chutz la Aretz and see a carcass in Eretz Yisrael. The Kotzker says that nothing is more tamei than that. There will not be a downfall like the Chashmonaim. Rav Herzog paskeend it when it looked like Rommel would get here c”v. There will a peaceful transition or transitions, in the same manner, lehavdil, as states in the US change their constitutions.

Avira, FYI, conquering and possessing EY is part of Torah. So is looking good in the eyes of the other nations. This is called “kiddush Hashem”.