Avram > would it not be prudent for them to find out why chareidim do not serve?
I agree, and I believe there are some initiatives that makes charedim serve in acceptable units.
< chutzpah for a “side” that doesn’t generally learn Torah full time to criticize kollel learners
that’s a cheap shot. Someone who serves in the army risks his life for the safety of others.
I am not sure whose criticism you mean – chilonim, other religious Jews or me personally. My skepticism regarding current social system is not that I don’t want people to learn, I want them to learn with all the chumros mentioned by Rambam and human decency. I am all for father-in-laws and businessmen supporting learners, or people learning in poverty without using funds that are not given to them for that purpose.
Netziv lived before medinah, but I think people who were growing that wine were tzionim, not yerushalmis. I may be wrong though.