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AviraDeArah
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Avi, ever see the megilas ester on that rambam? He says that the rambam doesn’t count it because of the 3 oaths. He didn’t forget anything.

The ramban quotes the oaths in maamar al hageulah, so how can he say that it’s a chiyuv to live in EY? the achronim say that his chiyuv of yishuv EY is on the yochid, not the rabim, because for a rabim it would be “kachomah”

So according to the rambam we’re in a time when, much like the meraglim, we’re not supposed to take the land. Zionists are very similar to meraglim in the opposite sense; the meraglim believed in kochi veotzem yadi and thought that they were too weak. The zionists believe in kochi veotzem yadi and think that they’re strong; just different sides of the same cheit.