Reply To: Can we have an adult conversation about education?

Honestly, AviraDeArah’s argument that once we let the state dictate, it will devolve into teaching all kinds of toeivos is a good argument. Clearly, the improvement, if necessary, must come from within and certainly not from the state. On that point we should all stand united.

There was a famous meme from long before Yaffed or any other sonei yisroel came along that showed a picture of a chossid and it said on the top “i baked my mother in the oven” and on the bottom it said “a cake.” This meme was popular because this is how so many of us speak and while cartoonishly playing on stereotypes, we all know exactly why the meme was popular. Certainly there are many excellent Gerrer yeshivas and others that teach secular studies on the level but its hard for me to believe that there is no problem to address (especially in Satmar).

But if the parents on the front lines do not see the need for improvement then there really is nothing to talk about. If there is to be change it will only come about if the parents want it and push for it.