YU is different than most yeshivas because it’s a University which tries to abide by the guidelines of having a university while having a Yeshiva and Semicha program. If there wasn’t social pressures to have these clubs, they wouldn’t. But now there are lawsuits and it gets complicated how we deal with these things. There’s nothing wrong with having a therapy group if it’s done withing the right parameters. YU in general I think makes up its standards as it goes along, as there isn’t a Rav Soloveitchik Zt”L to give guidance. There are frum people who went to YU who learn every day make honest livings whose wives dress tznius and there are some people who went to YU who know as much yiddishkeit as a conservative Jew. It’s not a perfect system, I don’t think even most of modern orthodox people would admit to but for a certain demographic in America it serves a purpose. The battles of a community in a more established Yeshivish community is not the same as those of in a more American modern community. Growth takes time. I think in the long run the “Right Wing” YU types will establish more baal habatishe institutions.
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