jackk,
“I refer to my previous post on this topic.”
Ok, I’ll get to that in a sec.
“Everyone here commenting lived through the Mageifah of Covid, which is why I am surprised that people can be so sure of themselves on either side.”
I’m expressing my own opinions based on that experience – not sure where I stated that I’m so sure of myself.
“If you are going to call the measures “draconian” or “mesirah” ,expelled, bullied, fired – you have already taken a stand on the issue .”
I think the vast majority of people who lived through the lockdowns, closures, mandates, etc. would agree the policies were draconian. Unless they liked staying at home, waiting an hour in icy wind on line to get into the grocery store, davening b’yechidus and having schools closed. The disagreement arises on whether these draconian measures were necessary, right, valid, legal, effective, harmful, and whether any consideration was given to alternatives or mitigations.
As far as mesirah – a Jew calling non-Jewish authorities on a synagogue is straight up mesirah. And given that the penalty was a citation and fine, I don’t see how even a twisted pikuach nefesh argument could be applied for making that call. Also, do you deny that people were expelled from their shuls, schools, or jobs based on Covid policies? Do you deny that people were bullied? Maybe your opinion is that the expulsions and bullying were necessary and good, but to argue on whether it actually happened or not? Lets stay in reality.
From your first post you referenced:
“I agree that there should be a auditing of what went on during covid. But because we know more about covid now, it is too easy to look back and second guess people for their errors and inactions done while the pandemic was raging. “
Much of the criticism of these policies is not being made now with the benefit of hindsight, but was made early on during the pandemic and was suppressed. And the criticism goes way beyond the aspects of the response that require knowledge of the virus itself. Knowing whether Covid is transmitted by aerosols, droplets, or from contact with surfaces doesn’t inform us on whether it’s a good idea to bully, scapegoat, deceive, or ignore the impacts of policies.