user – exhibit A.
and yes, it would be vastly different if run by frum people, because it wouldn’t be a massive chilul Hashem that broadcasts to the world that this is the Jewish people. the Jewish people eat treif, are mechalel shabbos, do whatever they want with whoever they want, embrace toevos in the streets of the holy city…and you’re using the “if it were frum it wouldnt bother you so much”…..as a “gatcha”?
Are you saying that I’m biased…towards frumkeit? I’ve heard many MO people say this before, in an attempt at “neutrality,” that the torah perspective is “biased” towards religion, and that “they” see the full truth…it’s one of the apikorsus mindsets that have evaded my many discussions here of MO/religious zionism, and if you bought into it…well, you failed the nisayon. plain and simple.
And yes, everyone asks me to support it. If you don’t support the state, you’re a fanatic, neturei karta/satmar person who doesn’t deserve to be called up for aliyos in many shuls. Not believing in the state is more disqualifying than outright kefirah in many circles, and Rabbi yoshe ber soloveitchik bemoaned this openly, saying that unfortunately, one can disagree with Moshe rabbeinu, but not, chas veshalom, menachem begin.
How is having the land the greatest gift? what has it brought us? More people sin with it by not keeping shmita/terumah/maaser….isn’t that a net loss? Didn’t chazal cancel mitzvos in order to not do aveiros, like lulav and esrog on shabbos, because maybe, maybe one yiddeleh would carry? All the mitzvos hatluyos baaretz aren’t worth the aveiros of those who break them, every day, every shmitah, all the time.