n0m, I began by *simply* stating that the OU 1996 claim that there was no Torah basis for a Techiya Mashiach was incorrect.
I was met with wicked vitriol against not myself, but the Chabad Rebbe. So I took it all to task.
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Avira:
Chabad is “otherising” Klal Yisroel???!
In-case you haven’t noticed it is distinctly the opposite. People, even before their Rebbe passed conjured up reasons to cast them aside. And as time went on, as long as they had a new reason and no longer felt the need to hold on to their previous ones, they eventually withdrew from claiming their earlier reasons had any validity. Nevermind that everything objected to had a clear source.
But I digress.
When Lubavitchers find out that there are Gedolim who don’t side with them???
There was not one who didn’t know this. They have a term for them: “misnagdim”. And whether it’s Reb Shach, Rabbi Berger, The Satmar Rebbe, all of Telshe and BMG (at that time) Brisk, Mir faculty, every Lubavitcher knew they were “misnagdim” without even having to ask. Your supposition is pure preposterousness. As is the first one I cited herein. As here is a list that rejected Chabad, not the other way around. Chabad has always been open to their fellow Jews, and “misnagdim” saw that too as a weakness, just like they initially opposed kiruv because they said one shouldn’t interact with chotim, even if they are tinokim shenishba.
Why is Chabad in such a way with their Rebbe when there’s no basis for such a manner???
I venture it’s fairly obvious, but I guess not for everyone.
We are taught not only hevai shoseh batzama es divreihem, but also hevai dovak baafar raglaihem. Certainly one can’t say they that they fulfil these directives of Pirkai Avos too much. Or would you?!
The Abarbenel doesn’t say that he will be identified as Mashiach or begin the initiative before his passing…???
So! Clearly he will live first; so no matter what he does then, his Rising will be a “second coming”. Certainly one would imagine he would do no less than those very first qualifications that Rambam cites, and no less, if only out of Avodas Hashem, as every one of them is part and parcel with being a Gadol Hador by any estimation, if so inclined. Also no one said the Chabad Rebbe would return by himself. I’m not sure how you even come up with stuff yourself and then use it as an indictment as though you got it from others. 100% certainty no Chabad ever said that. And if one ever does, we already know that there are different waves of Techiya. So if someone says such a thing, even had they no basis, it is not heretical, and there would be no basis to argue against them, nevermind citing those who say that some Techiya will happen before Binyan HaMikdash and you insisting that “they didn’t say that too would happen in waves”, as if that’s a chiluk. Besides there are other sources that distinctly say there will be more than the two waves brought down there. But I digress again, and severely, because no one said such a thing!!!
Again, I see you digressing from sensibility the further you journey away from “melamed zechus”. Which reminds me, the sinas chinom which brought about the churban was because they were “melamed chova”. They weren’t veltishe haters, they were doing it in Torah. The problem was they would finagle a chova while zechus was pshat waiting for them. But they side-stepped it, in favor going “lifnim mishuras hadin” as the Gemara says. Except they were doing that on the side of chova against their fellow Yid.
You can do better.
The ikar is to be melamed zechus in Torah, like I am.
Do recall that I didn’t once insist any of this on my own account. I have simply been melamed zechus for Good Fine Yidden who half an apparently Torah acceptable view, as I’ve shown.
But remember, that until the Rebbe’s passing these same people were ostracized for calling him Mashiach by all the “misnagdim”, nevermind referring to him as “Melech” Ha…! Not only have they all decided now that the issue is it’s after the petira, but now that it’s not an essential point of contention, now having another one, they suddenly wouldn’t object to Rambam and Bar Kochba and Rebbe Akiva as a concrete source that it is perfectly acceptable according to Torah. As Rebbe Akiva held B”K was Mashiach with no qualms raised by anyone, and even Rambam being Moreh Horaah based on the occurrence. And Rambam himself refers to B”K as a King, indicating that Mashiach or not, in his Halacha there, B”K is a King.
Teaching of note: I personally saw a Michtav from the Lubavitcher Rebbe where he said there is no such thing as a “misnagid”, but rather (I don’t remember exactly what the following reference was, but something along the lines of..) only someone for whom it hasn’t yet been explained the background to what they object to. Don’t take the wording the wrong way. I remember the essential points being that there is no such a person, and anyone who seems like that, they can be enjoined together with their fellow Jews, despite initial perceived differences.
This simply highlights the official position of Chabad, that they do not reject or disregard ANY Jews, even those who seem to do so to them.
This is the main limud from all this, I think for us all.
Especially nowadays in our international world where we don’t have the same insulatory nature of our shtetls between us, that it is inherent that this will be the outcome. It’s just a question of who will be on the front end of the Achdus wave.
LeChaim!!!