@n0mesorah And why didn’t it work specifically in Lakewood in the 21st century? Every other city, country (besides Chareidim in Eretz Yisroel), and time period in the post-Holocaust world strongly encouraged it. So why did it break down all of a sudden? It’s an ideological thing, plain and simple. A silly, misguided, ideology that people have fooled themselves into thinking is Torah.
(Aren’t you Lubavitch? Didn’t the late Rebbe of Lubavitch also encourage studying math, science, and history in Yeshiva?)
You just described a ten hour day. Yeah, there’s a few breaks, but it’s still majority spent on Gemara and halacha.
“I don’t know why people will forget science”. Well, they won’t (probably). But their kids never learn it in the first place and that’s who will be replacing them.
Nobody who wants to be taken seriously would suggest that these kids are violent because they do not know enough math or science.
That’s not what I meant. Lemme explain. Kids in these types of Mesivtas are shown a single criteria for being a success: Knowing how to learn Gemara. When they fail at that, or just simply don’t enjoy it, they often act out.