@ray Kaufman/redleg How can you say that you “certainly agree that the use or operation of electrical appliances and devices is assur?” Didn’t you say that “it is beyond question that most of the responsa concerning electricity are based on incomplete or misunderstood information?”
The chareidim are noheg not to operate electricity on Shabbos. Whoever does is a poretz gender. But let’s not be brainwashed liars. It’s a safek derabanan.
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