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Avram in MD
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DaMoshe,

“I am a Zionist, but that doesn’t mean I support the government of the State. I wish the State was run by a religious government, in accordance with halacha.”

What are the practical ramifications of this position, if any?

“When the State was founded, they could have participated, and set up the groundwork for the laws to be based on halacha, but many refused, partially because of the urging from Satmar.”

This is historical whitewashing. Do you really think the militantly secular Zionists, who viewed religion as primitive and chareidim as parasites would have entertained the notion of a “halachic” state?

“R’ Yoilish HAD to continue to oppose Zionism because of his actions during the Holocaust.”

I guess the former Satmar Rav is your version of the George Soros puppet master?

“a place where the other nations can’t persecute us for being Jewish”

We can practically still hear the echo of the red alert sirens and explosions over Israel, and Hamas is openly threatening to attack the Jerusalem day parade. The last time I was in Israel, I saw swastikas drawn on walls on Mt. Scopus. The medina certainly has not ended the persecution.

“Where the government won’t torture and kill us for practicing our faith.”

Tel Aviv recently forbade religious Zionists from setting up a prayer service on Yom Haatzmaut because there was to be a mechitza.

“When R’ Akiva saw a fox on the Har haBayis, he laughed, because one nevuah coming true meant the others would as well.”

Har Habayis is still desolate, R”L.

“I can separate the government from the State itself. You seem unable to do so.”

I’m not clear on what this means, similar to my first question.