Avira,
“The other poster was referring to legitimate movements, yeshivos, chasidusen, communities…no gedolim are on record accepting this idea.”
“False messiahs” and “messianic cults” arent exactly the phrasing i would use for “Legitimate movements”. Now we are switching it from movements to gedolim. As ive already mentioned in the previous thread there were people who did continue to believe in their rebbe after their passing, very great talmidei chachamim and tzadikim(the shtefaneshter rebbe was a known baal mofes). But naturally what i expect for u to do(which is al derech what berger does) is to make broad declarations that moshiach from the dead isnt a thing in judaism, and when given sources pull the line back to well its a das yachid, and then to well to well they are just pirushim, to well no legitimate jews ever claimed it in real life to no LEARNED jews ever claimed it in real life, to then well no gedolim. And who is a gadol? Well whoever u define gadol as. Shkoyach. its disingenuous argument and a gaps argument. Much like people who argue well g-d must exist because science cant account for X, they find a way to account for x and u pull the line back to something else. it’s a losing and weak position.