Reply To: The final word on Moshiach from the meisim (hopefully!)

@RSo clearly you have not read the sefer. As pointed out in the sefer many mefarshim including Rashi hold they are calling their Rav “Moshiach” ie fit to be Moshiach as quoted in the sefer. Rashi also holds they are calling their Rav Raui Lehyos Moshiach. As is seen clearly from Rashi d’h Menachem: (says Rashi) Ben Chizkiya. Once Rashi shows his girsa just said Menachem so he then states it’s a real human being with a father called Chizkiya. We see he holds not just names and attributes but rather they’re pointing a finger and saying he is fit to be Moshiach.

Furthermore it’s well known (or rather known to those who are into the sugia) many acharonim quote this Gemara to hint they are fit to be Moshiach such as Shachna Shmoi and Chaim Shmoi.

Also in yerushalmi and Medrash when it says if Moshiach is from the dead Dovid shmei all the mefarshim state it means dovid HaMelech himself. Ie not just names and attributes. Also the mefarshim which do say names and attributes such as maharsha, look closely and you will see he isn’t coming to negate the poshut pshat that they are calling their Rav Moshiach. Rather he gives a deeper pshat too that they also mean names and attributes. This is understood by the fact he brings different pasukim than the Gemara and also he is explicit about Menachem Ben Chizkiya is “Moshiach” see there for yourself. The maharal that says names and attributes isn’t coming to argue with the poshut pshat rather as is his derech he explains the Gemara al pi drash. Etc.

So in essence as I said Lubavitch is saying the same as the Gemara states about the yeshivas of rebbi shiloi Yanai and chanina….

Gemara is where we learn how to act as Jews. So Lubavitch and all yidden can learn and do the same as the amorayim. As did Reb shachna the rebbi and father in law of the rama and Chaim Shmoi the Ohr hachaim….

These points are exactly what makes Kuntres Shmoi Shel Moshiach such an eye opener…

Sorry about that.