Reply To: The final word on Moshiach from the meisim (hopefully!)

#AviraDeArah RE: “He invented the techia protis thing; no one says it clearly.” As quoted in Kuntres Shmoi Shel Moshiach the source for Techiya Pratis is Rambam Igeres Tchiyas HaMeisim perek 6.

in any event Poshut Pshat with Moshiach coming from the dead means Moshiach will be ressurected in a Techiya Pratis.

RE: “And rashis 2nd(and preferred) pshat” Does this kinda sorta mean you now acknoledge Rashi 1st Pshat is very clealy understanding the Gemara to be teaching Moshiach can come from the dead?

if so what exactly is the problem you have? Chazal say Moshiach can come from the dead. you also keep avoiding the Yerushalmi he quotes that Rebbi Yehoshua Ben Levi Argues with Dovid Shmei and says Tzemach Shmei. As he points out the context of this machloikes is Moshiach from the living and Moshiach from the dead. same for Menachem Shmei….

clearly chazal hold Moshiach can come from the dead…. so what exactly is your Taana? that it cant be the Rebbe?

secondly you call Rashi Second Pirush Perferable? that means you throw away his first?!?!? and who said the second one is the Ikar? as he said in his book the second pirush starts with K’lomar and is only brought to settle the kashos with the first etc and he wrote a whole chapter explaining as to WHY it is incorrect to think the second Pirush is Rejecting the notion of Moshiach from the dead….

so have said nothing to address these well reasoned points he makes….

just because you dont want to like something doesnt mean facts just disappear.

Regarding ELiyahu he quotes from Terumas Hadeshen that says Eliyahu is Considered meis. and his coming back is considered a Techiya Pratis….

RE: “But they individually were not moshiach, since the geulah did not happen in their times.” are you sure you really read his book? his whole book is not about the Goel Tzedek rather his book is mainly about Raui Lehyos Moshiach. Chazal say you are fit to be moshiach whether you are alive or mais without Machloikes….

do you think chazal do not hold moshiach can come from the dead?
if so quote why you feel that way so far you havent stated anything factual personal attacks edited(you continue to ignore the YErushalmi and Medrash too)…. sad day for the TOrah…