anyPotato: “so sad that due to your preconceived ideas you would rather show the whole world you are completely uninteligent and make like you have no clue rather than admit you have made a mistake and that chazal do hold moshiach can come from the dead”
Thanks for the insult. Coming from a Lubavicher I treasure it. At any rate, I do not believe I made a mistake. I definitly did not make a mistake in explaining where the colons and periods in Rashi come from, and you have not shown how Chazal hold Mashiach can come from the dead, other than one peirush in Rashi, in which case it has to be Daniel and no one else.
“Rashi clearly holds we are talking about a read [I assume you mean real] person they said is Moshiach”
I never suggested otherwise, although I don’t see how you see Rashi saying that. The gemoro says ויש אומרים מנחם בן חזקיה שמו and the only Rashi on that is מנחם: בן חזקיה. Can you please tell me in a lucid way how you see that as proof that it’s referring to a real person.
Furthermore, nowhere does the Maharsha say that Menachem ben Chizkiyah died. He says that he was taken to Gan Eden, as the Midrash says. That’s not quite the same as dying. Chanoch and Eliyahu were taken to Gan Eden without dying, and in the gemoro R Yehoshua ben Levi entered Gan Eden without dying.
“…its all in his sefer if you would do yourself a favor and just read it (along with the Haskamos)”
This is another area in which we differ. I do not think it will be doing myself a favor reading a sefer written by someone with an agenda which I believe is harmful.
“RE: “משיח צדקנו” if it is merly an Honorfic why doesnt anyone in the Litvishe world use it?”
Are you sure they don’t use it?
And, once again, you pick and choose which questions to reply to. I pointed out that in the same list of titles the Maharal was referred to as מלאך השם. So did that talmid believe that the Maharal was human or a malach? It’s an honorific! Accept it.
“it seems like you have an aversion to talmidim saying their Rav is Moshiach. why is that?”
No. I have an aversion to anyone saying that anyone nowadays or over the last hundreds of years is/was bechezkas Mashiach. And I have an aversion to people who pick and choose statements of Chazal, Rishonim and Acharonim to prove their own personal agenda, and who ignore or misinterpret otherss
“do you not like what Chazal, Rishonim and Acharonim teach? you hate fellow frummer yidden so much you are prepared to disregard parts of the Tora!?!?”
Seems to me you should be taking something to calm your nerves.
I don’t hate frummer Yidden (well, at least not many of them 🙂 ). What I hate is people who have an improper agenda and are willing to do almost anything to justify themselves. And in that I include any Lubavicher who is trying to prove that his rebbe is/was Mashiach.
A thought that just came to me. If a Lubavicher was using all these crazy claims to prove a non-Lubavicher was Mashiach, or a non-Lubavicher was using them to claim that the Lubavicher rebbe was Mashiach it wouldn’t upset me nearly as much, because there wouldn’t be a cultish agenda in the background. But when Lubavich uses the claims to show that their rebbe is Mashiach – it’s a cult, dangerous to Torah-true Yidden, and very upsetting.
“The Rebbe himself acknoledged thepsak he is Chezkas Moshiach. in the Sicha of Shmois Nun Bais and also Mishpotim Nun Bais”
He said so himself! I rest my case.
“right now you look like a brainwashed Parrot.”
I’d like to thank the mods for not editing that out. Had they done so we would have missed the most beautiful insult.