When parties are debating each other, there needs to be some understanding or set of foundational principles that they all agree upon. Otherwise, it will devolve into chaos and misunderstanding.
In this heated topic, there’s a lack of that understanding.
What are the facts? What are the rules? Lastly, which sources are okay?
If not, everyone ends up going around in circles.
Personally, I embrace every yid as a part of our holy nation. It’s not my role to categorize any group negatively, especially when they have their own rabbanim and leaders, regardless of my personal views on their approach.