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@query613 all people that think dovid HaMelech, Rebbi shiloi, Yanai and chanina and Menachem Ben Chizkiya and the baal Shem Tov and the Ruhzeneh and the friedika Rebbe and the lubavitcher Rebbe are the Moshiach, believe they will come back via a Techiya Pratis and fulfill all the messianic prophecies. Until that happens they are just “fit to be Moshiach” or “Moshiach” or bchezkas Moshiach if they fit the din in Rambam.
As shown in Kuntres Shmoi Shel Moshiach about the amorayim.
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As shown in Kuntres Shmoi Shel Moshiach the amorayim listed there continued to call their Rav Moshiach while he was alive and continued to call him Moshiach after he passed away. None of that is considered “a second coming” rachama Litzlan.

The preoccupation to slander Lubavitch is considered sinas chinam as once proof is shown that Moshiach can come from the meisim and proof shown of amorayim continuing to call their Rav Moshiach after he passed away. And proof shown that reb nochum m’chernoble said about the baal Shem Tov and the Ruhzeneh and the previous Rebbe all continuing to call their Rav Moshiach while alive even after he passed away.

To then say you acknowledge Moshiach can come from the dead. But still equate such a belief as a “second coming” and worse to create lies about the Rebbe to say he said the Geula has begun and he has already started fulfilling the messianic prophecies which is complete lies and malicious misquotes. Then to frame him with the lies and now give verdict of Moshiach sheker…. This is the definition of sinas chinam.

As the fact that the lies could be believed even at all is not to acknowledge the Rebbe is a holy tzadik. Then to spread malicious slander of Moshiach sheker similar to shabtai Tzvi is completely in appropriate and unbelievable unless someone is seething with hatred and misinformation to even think such could even be remotely possible….

So yes if you don’t think the Rebbe is Moshiach fine. But to slander about a second coming or Moshiach sheker that is completely false and malicious.

And to further invent that the chofetz chaim poskened against Moshiach coming from the meisim and then putting the onus on Lubavitch to find such a non existent mkor…..

And to then to claim you spoke to a chabad shliach and quote him as saying something so crazy without any chance of verification possible to find out if such a thing took place….

Ie in spite of the sources quoted and the strong mesorah recorded to say Moshiach can be someone that passed away but will come back but you continue to maliciously ignore the sources and continue to say second coming and Moshiach sheker. That to all who are honest and acknowledge Chazal can only be called sinas chinam.