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sechel83
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@qwerty “You said that if one speaks Loshon hora he lises his Chelek in Olsm Habo But in a different post you said thst every Jew including the worst Roshoim go to Olam Habo. Finally I didn’t call the Rebbe a kofer you did by saying that snyone who rejects a Gemsra is s Kofer and the Rebbe rejected 1/30000.”
you just answered your own question, i meant according to you who think hashem is so strict about olam haba.
(btw side point, olam haba and techiyas hamasim dont always refer to the same thing. olam haba actually has many conditions not olam haba. also olam haba is after – a diffrent stage – the coming of moshiach. see likutai sichos vol 29 bechukosai, maamer kol yisroel from the rebbe, etc.)

here’s another gemara (the same page that says 2 in 600k -111a):
With regard to the verse: “For I have taken you to Myself: And I will take out one of a city, and two of a family” (Jeremiah 3:14), Reish Lakish says: The meaning of this statement is as it is written, that only individuals will be spared and the rest will be destroyed. Rabbi Yoḥanan said to him: It is not satisfactory to God, their Master, that you said this about them. Rather, the merit of one from the city causes the entire city to benefit, and the merit of two from a family causes the entire family to benefit and be redeemed. Likewise, the Gemara relates that Rav Kahana sat before Rav, and sat and said: The meaning of this statement is as it is written. Rav said to him: It is not satisfactory to God, their Master, that you said this about them. Rather, the merit of one from the city causes the entire city to benefit, and the merit of two from a family causes the entire family to benefit and be redeemed.
100% i have one rebbe. if i would try to follow everyone well: according to the satmer rebbe – anyone who votes is a kofer and serves a”z. according to other gedolim you need to vote. according to some gedolim – the baal shem tov never existed. its impossible to follow everyone. b”h i was raised chabad!