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“4) And now for the real one. why did you make up that 12 x 12 is the chiddush of Rav Moshe? The novel interpretation of the S”A is applicable even if a city has an undefined size as it did before Rav Moshe. The Aruch Hashulchan and every other chiddush here never bothered with an exact size. Rav Moshe wasn’t coming to say 12 x 12. That is a side part.”
Unbelievable narshkeit. First of all, the SA does not say the word city at all. Rav Moshe actually struggles with this issue and claims, kneged the Ramban’s shita, that the SA is referring to a sratya. This is yet again a huge chiddush. Those few poskim who claim that the criterion is conditional of the city, would maintain that Rav Moshe is a mekil. So no there is no doubt that Rav Moshe’s chiddush that a 12 mil by 12 mil area is what is referred to a city is a huge chiddush. Those who uphold this novel shita that it applies to a city need to answer for this, but they would never have come up with this chiddush of 12 mil by 12 mil. The Ramban asks on Rashi where does he know the chiddush of shishim ribo from, and so we no doubt can ask on Rav Moshe where did he get this chiddush from (which source used this measurement). Oh, and no, Rav Moshe clearly maintains that the Aurach Hashulchan upholds that the criterion of shishim ribo is conditional of the street. Oh, and now whatever Rav Moshe says in 1:139, is also a side part. Rav Moshe says his chiddush regarding 12 mil by 12 mil in all his teshuvos regarding eruvin in large cities, but you deem it a side part. Oh, Rav Dovid also says his fathers shita was shishim ribo over 12 mil by 12 mil. You are a jokester.