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CS: “there’s 3 stages: 1) למיודעיו 2. לוחם מלחמות ד׳ 3. גילויו לכל”

Valid sources (by that I mean not something said by the Lubavicher rebbe) please.

“We definitely see the Rebbe as king in many ways”

Correct. YOU see it in many ways, but the Rambam does not. Nor does the entire Torah-world, at least, not those who are under stong Lubavich influence.

I’ll ask you again, why did not one Lubavicher chassid EVER recite the berocho made when seeing a king when they saw their rebbe? Clearly, not even Lubavichers held that he was king according to halacha. If you can’t give a valid answer to that, you are simply contradicting yourself, or at worst lying, when you say he was a king.

As to R Akiva and Bar Koziba, I don’t know how it worked but if the Rambam lists criteria, and he then says that R Akiva consider Bar Koziba a king, then he must have fit those criteria. Something which your rebbe most certainly did not.

“Bar kochba definitely wasn’t annointed- there was no Sanhedrin then.”

Ah, but there was. According to many sources the Sanhedrin ceased to exist in the year 4185 (425 CE) which is loooong after R Akiva was martyred.

“your Sanhedrin criterion isn’t mentioned at all here in Rambam”

But all the quotes you cite from Rashi in Doniel, from Rabbeinu Bachya and others are, right? Can you really not see that you just pick and choose what to count and what not to count.

I also note that you have not addressed the explicit Rambam that says that whoever claims that Mashiach will not descend from Shlomo Hamelech is a kofer Bashem c”v, and the yichus of the Maharal (once again, there is no proof that the L rebbe was ben achar ben to him) was through the Nesi’im in E”Y who were descended, the gemoro tells us, from Shefatya, Shlomo Hamelech’s brother.

“it [that Beis Mashiach has a gematria of 770] only became significant to me when the Rebbe referenced it”

Fair enough, because you believe every thing that he said regardless of how meaningless it is. But for you to expect us to take something as childish as that seriously, indicates that you are so brainwashed that you can’t even believe that others have a totally different way of thinking than you.

“On the contrary Chabad means we engage with the mind.”

Did you perhaps leave prefix “dis” of one of the words in the above?