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CS: “It’s not just about the Rebbe being Moshiach (and he claimed his father in law as such…)”

Hold on a second. The Lubavicher rebbe claiimed his father-in-law was Mashiach? So was he wrong or right? If he was wrong, then you admit that he could be wrong, and thus possibly wrong in other statements. If he was right, then his father-in-law was Mashiach – and btw he hasn’t been alive for over 70 years and has still not returned! – so your rebbe was not Mashiach.
Having had tons of experience with Lubavich obfuscating (another word which I never get to use, so please mods don’t delete that word!) I am guessing that you will answer something along the lines that they are really the same person and the neshama has moved from one to the other, being “nesi’im” of Chabad. So if that’s the case, simply appoint another live “nasi” and he wil be a live Mashiach, removing so many of the problems.
(For the record, the title “nasi” is a term which I have shown on other earlier threads that does not exist, and was made up by Lubavich to suit themselves. That is why I have put it in quotes. No reason at this point to reiterate what I have written elsewhere.)

“it’s also about Nevuah (he showed how nevuah was present by all Rebbeim.)”

Claiming is not showing.

“all the original sources on the topic describe the way one should view his Rebbe exactly as we do. (Think Rambam, Pirkei Avos etc)”

There is not even one source that says that someone who comes up with outlandish, weird and unacceptable statements, thereby leading a large group of Yidden to believe in a second coming et al, should be viewed the way you view the LR. There are other reasons to make that claim, but אין כאן המקום להאריך.

“Hence the natural conclusion is that this particular crowd of Jews is not used to being exposed to things beyond the realm of nature (whereas that was the expected with the Rebbe.)”

I, who have been exposed for decades to many things beyond the realm of nature brought about by brochos of tzaddikim, should take offence at what you say. But I don’t because I know that despite you wanting very much to see the truth, you are facing away from it, and you therefore consider everybody else bent, and only Lubavich upright. Brainwashing in Lubavich has been going on for so long that they have it R”L down to a fine art.

From the mods: “You are [corrected] sorely misunderstanding the conversation”

Once again, the mods have hit the nail on the head.