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Gedol Hador
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Avira, you are contradicting yourself. Initially you said that even before R’ Yochanan met the ????? he knew that of course a man should do this; the ????? taught him that even a woman should do this. Now you’re saying, “we don’t learn anything specific about (sic) women from this story.”
The concept that a person should be ????? themselves to get more ??? is ???? the concept of ??? ??????: the ????? was teaching him that the more you are ???? the more ??? you get.

Rav and R’ Yochanan did not discuss personally every ?????? that they had: Rav lived in ??? and R’ Yochanan lived in Eretz Yisroel. They weren’t aware of all each other’s teachings, ?????? from ??? ??? ??? (the story with R’ Yochanan and Rav Kahana.) Indeed, R’ Abba, who was R’ Yochanan’s ?????, had to ask the ??????? of Rav how Rav explained the ??????, because he didn’t know himself. That discussion is the source of the ??????, as is obvious from the ????.

After the ???? records the two ????? of Rav and Rebbi Yochanan, the ???? says ??? ????? ?????? ???? ??? ?????? ??. This makes it very clear that the ?????? is based on Rebbi Yochanan holding that there is a concept of ??? ??????, and Rav holding that there isn’t.