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Arso,

“ Yankel berel wasn’t addressing whether there was speculation as to the identity of Mashiach he asked you: Was there no group of people thirsting for geula like you, in the whole 1900 plus years since the Hurban ?

Note, thirsting for the geula, not speculating as to identity.”

Of course there was or bar koziva and shabsai tzvi would have never gotten off the ground, especially considering the danger from the Romans and worldwide governments in the time of ST.

It’s funny how people seem to think it’s wrong to speculate about moshiach because look how the others turned out.

Fun fact: there’s only one Moshiach and one final Geula- so obviously the others didn’t work out because it wasn’t the time/ person. But we see how Rabbi Akiva put his name on Bar Kochva simply because he was victorious in battle- he obviously was no great tzadik if he was able to say what he did that led to his downfall and the massacre of myriads.

Similarly, many Rabbonim put their names on ST, and world Jewry waited breathlessly, although he ended up doing aveiros publicly that no regular yarei shomayim would do.

Taken from that perspective- the bar is actually quite low- and The Rebbe incomparably more qualified, as he led us without any other private life since he took on the nesius, and remained a tzadik until he had to part from us, led and leads a world army of shluchim which is unprecedented as far as I know in our entire history to care for every type of Jew. His Chassidim are involved with the not frum, frum (teaching Chassidus as well as helping with any situation asked, bgashmius uvruchnius), and caring as parents, teachers and mashpiim etc for our own.