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CS: I must say, something is very odd. Lubavitch has spoken this talk in earlier years, how Peilischer Chasidim make it all about the Rebbe but in Lubavitch the Chasidim do the work and the Rebbe is just the teacher.

Have you ever heard of a straw man argument? If you haven’t here is the definition: an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent’s real argument.

In simple terms, rather than arguing with the facts, you represent the facts in a manner which makes it easy for you to dispute them.

“Peilisher chassidim” and their beliefs are something invented by Lubavich, so that Lubavich can say, “We are much better.” I know of no “Peilisher chassidim” who have ever said that the Rebbe is the one who does all the work!

But Lubavich is no stranger to straw man arguments. Just read the Memoirs of the Rayatz and see how the whole Litvishe world is represensted. Basically, stupid shallow people who thought they were tzaddikim.

It’s the same with mussar. Everyone in Lubavich knows that mussar seforim just put you down, while chassidus lifts you up. Strange because none of the mussar seforim I learn have ever put me down. Can you show me, for example, one place in Orchos Tzaddikim that puts you down?