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Sechel: how you you know where the shmiras enayim is better or worse?

Shmiras einayim is ALWAYS better where women are tzniusdik as opposed to where they aren’t. There’s no way out of that, regardless of whatever you’ll answer about learning chassidus and davening.

And there’s another issue of tznius that, as far as I can recall, hasn’t been mentioned at all. In which other frum communities do you find teenage and adult men walking around wearing shorts and flip-flops? Of course, this is accompanied by full beards and tzitzis hanging loose. After all, we are Lubavichers, aren’t we? And I’m not talking about BTs or people going OTD. I’m talking about regular Lubavichers who don’t care about tznius as it applies to men. I remember seeing a clip of Rabbi Paltiel decrying the fact that Lubavichers don’t all wear suits, hats and jackets. Shorts and flip-flops?! Mahn dechar shmeihu?

And as mentioned before anyone who doesn’t keep all the “takanos” of the yeshivish rabbonim, is modern, so if you want, you can say the same thing in chabad. Anyone who doesn’t keep the letters of the badatz of crown heights or eretz yisroel (which includes strict guidelines on tznius) call them modern! Issue solved? Now your happy.

Not at all happy, and for at least two reasons:
1. Many/most of these families where the women don’t care about tznius consider themselves fully-committed Lubavichers, and no one says otherwise.
2. Some of these women are shluchos, and thus OFFICIALLY represent Lubavich.