Dofi, conservative and open ‘orthodox’ can and are very often conflated with authentic Jews. Their apikorsus is poisonous to klal yisroel and the damage inflicted by their words leads to communal sinning and akiras hatorah.
NK isn’t taken seriously by anyone, and even if they were, the content of their speech isn’t apikorsus, nor are they advocating the abrogation of mitzvos. They are parroting political talking points from the anti semites, and they are, at the most, tokenized jews who serve as cover for antisemites to hide their jew hatred.
For a crowd whose yom kippur drashos are all about the “state of world jewry” and think that the main thing that we should be concerned with or outraged by are israeli politics and/or our physical safety, yes, NK presents more of a threat. But to Torah jews who are more concerned with teshuva and kiyum hamitzvks, we just laugh at NK and daven that their actions don’t lead to jews being endangered. But we understand that some jews might actually bs drawn to yiddishkeit by their message, because some have imbibed the colleges’ radical anti Israel teachings and are open to a Judaism that does not include Israel – that can be either yeshivish, chasidishe, or NK,
…or “liberation ” jewish groups like Jewish Voices for Peace which are secular and self hating Jews.
unfortunately their campus rabbis are typically modern orthodox or chabad, which make Israel advocacy and hasbara a huge part of their kiruv.
I’m talking about the less than 10% of college jews who are not pro israel; they are a considerable population. And if NK makes even one of them interested in authentic yiddishkeit, then that’s a positive.
Ujm’s and all of us Torah jews on here are saying that NK hasn’t fundamentally drifted away from Torah values in their ideology, but moreso in their nutty practices. Think of them as a mentally unstable frum person compared with an apikores.