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YYA > Forgive me, Reb Yid, but you seem quite sure of your own righteousness when discussing Gedolim from previous generations… Some of your posts don’t exactly exude ahava towards other Jews…

I think I do. The fact that not everything every Rav said turned out perfect, does not mean disrespect or lack of love. As I say above, I see a lot of value in charedi approach. The fact that Chofetz Chaim did not think about schools for girls is a fact – that I tried to verify by reading a couple of volumes of his letters, but it does not take away all seforim and mussar lessons we have from him.

> BTW, Ahavas Yisroel applies also to Jews who are MORE frum then you, not just those who are LESS (and therefore make you feel more comfortable about yourself…)

I agree, except disagreeing with MORE or LESS (putting aside Chofetz Chaim who said – people say that in our time, one should be frum/frum/and then klug, but I say klug/klug and then frum). Chabad Alter Rebbe once went down to his son’s apartment (future Rebbe, I presume) and saw him deep in learning while a baby left by the wife to be watched was crying. Rebbe reprimanded his son for not paying attention to the baby. Metaphorically, not paying attention to your brothers, to your own obligations, to Hashem’s world is not necessarily more observant. I learned sometimes with charedi type people and sometimes with “modern”. Yes, there are more rishonim quoted in charedi discussions, but there is way more in depth discussion of the sugya in the “modern” shiur, where participants include top engineers/doctors/college professors – both by an occasional Aristotle or Josephus quote, but also by applying their seichel. It would laughable to consider first group frummer than the second.