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DaMoshe
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HaKatan, 2 points.
First, you just keep repeating yourself like a broken record, without listening to what others say. Nobody here is arguing that the secular Zionists were not good people. Personally, I agree with you about that part. Did they cause the Holocaust? I doubt it. Did they possibly contribute to many deaths? Yes. That doesn’t mean that Zionism as a whole, especially religious Zionism, is wrong.

Second, if you’re going to talk about causing deaths, then let’s discuss the Satmar Rebbe, R’ Yoelish. He had a chance to save his kehilla in Europe – the Zionists offered to get them out, and bring them to Eretz Yisrael. He refused to allow them to speak in the town, saying that it was better to die than to collaborate with Zionists. Yet, he snuck out, at night, without telling anyone, to be saved by a Zionist. He abandoned his followers. Almost all of them were killed by the Nazis. He did exactly what he told his followers not to do, and did so in a cowardly fashion, sneaking out when nobody would see him.