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BB:
You are making a lot of assumptions and building castles in the sky out of those assumptions. Esav just fought Yishmael, for Esav’s interests/political reasons. You have no proof that it actually brought any salvation for any Jews, even if the indications are that it benefited the Jews in the Zionist paradise. In fact, it could be the opposite, that the Zionists might have done better if not for him. We don’t know, both what could have been and what actually will happen as a result of what did happen. But that’s anyways irrelevant.

Hashem stated that His Torah will never change. Migalgilin zechus al yedai zakai and other chazals very clearly denote that it is impossible for the Zionists to bring good for the Jews, and certainly not to bring the actual geulah. The Brisker Rav stated as much when he was already living there under the Zionists. Rav Elchonon Wasserman noted the same, but also pointed out that, ironically, the only way the Zionists could bring the geulah is if they cause so many problems for the Jews that Hashem then brings the geulah out of mercy to His children.

So, no, G-d already stated that the Torah will not change, and that is what the Torah says.

Bottom line is that the geulah could of course come today or tomorrow or anytime after, but that will be despite, not because of, the Zionists, as per the Torah.