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yankel berel
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@hakatan

…… there is still a very, very big difference between this group of minim who are mesisim uMedichim on the largest imaginable scale (the Zionists of course) versus a “mere” rasha (not a min, but a rasha).

ad kan divrei katan .

the russian tsar [and the russian empire] was a rasha merusha ,and caused much trouble beruchniyut uvegashmiyut, not less than the tsionim ,

and nevertheless , rav mibrisk credited his building of the Siberian railway for the rescue of thousands of yehudim [including the Mirrer yeshiva ,the only yeshiva to have collectively survived the war]

this is a good example of yachin rasha vetsadiq yilbash

any difference between the types of reshaim is only a consequence of your stubborn refusal to push the reset button on long held dogmatic belief

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katan:
For example, if a rasha builds some mansion – and nobody ever even heard of this rasha – then there doesn’t seem to be any concern that his rishus will be validated by his palace going to a tzaddik. Even if they did hear of him, people buy and sell houses all the time and almost nobody cares who originally built his house unless there is some prestige or other gain from that.

Whereas, if the Zionist State were to be the basis for the geulah (which is impossible, of course, but in theory, if it were), then it would clearly cast a positive light on that idolatry and heresy (which it factually is according to the Torah).

ad kan divrei katan

like the siberian railway does not “cast any positive light on that rasha merusha , the russian tsar”

and like the famous beit halevy who similarly explains that the reshaim the roman empire , who burnt our bet hamikdash and mass murdered our nation , do not get any s’char for their building highways and bridges which helped the yehudim of EY, , but was nevertheless an example of yachin rasha vetsadiq yilbash.

they do not get sechar because of their evil intentions

and the roman highways and bridges which helped the yehudim of EY , ” do not cast any positive light on that roman empire of rish’ut” either

and nevertheless factually still helped the yoshvei EY

same with the infrastructure built by the reshaim , the tsionim ” do not cast any positive light on the of rish’ut of mesitim umedichim” either

and nevertheless factually still helped and still helps the yoshvei EY the tsadiqim who still benefit from said infrastructure.

yachin rasha ve tsadiq yilbash.

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no difference in the type of rasha , roman murderers or a murderous tsar or mesitim umadichim under the zionist guise , or communist guise or whatever guise.

yachin rasha vetsadiq yilbash

this principle applies , no difference who the rasha is .

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katan:

….. , the Brisker Rav surely knew that Rambam at least as well as anyone today, and he still stated exactly what he did due to Chazal’s dictum that Hashem causes zechus to come from zakai, and the opposite from the opposite.

I do not believe rav mibrisk ever said it is impossible that any good could ever come from a rasha

evil romans and a despotic Russian tsar are excellent refutations of such a dogmatic approach.
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katan :

…. The Satmar Rav actually went further and drew a kal vaChomer from min sheKasav Sefer Torah that it must be burned. If we need to go that far to ensure a min’s name is not relatively well-known, then surely Hashem will ensure that nothing (significant?) – he was referring to infrastructure, if memory serves – from the Zionists will remain when Moshiach comes.

ad kan divrei katan

a min who builds a house , the house has to be burnt ?

hordos was a ma’amin or a min ?

the building on top of me’arat hamachpela has to burnt ?

the stones of the kosel have to be burnt ?

moreover the second beit hamikdash after hordos’ renovation had to be burnt ?

by a sefer tora there are special requirements, absent in other places
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katan :
Finally, in addition to all that, the midrash notes that the final geulah is something that must come from Hashem alone, not from man’s efforts (other than Torah and mitzvos, of course).

ad kan divrei katan

we will need the exact source for such a medrash

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