following [copied and pasted] is somejews psak level one :
In (very) short, that means that if goyim – chas v’shulem – threaten masses of jews, our kosher responses are: make peace, give gifts, run away, and pray to G-d. What we are not allowed to do , is ….. physically fight the enemy.
….. One cannot fight the non-Jews with violence because of pekiach nefesh, and that is both explicitly stated by Maharal but also blatantly obvious in context of the shevios that are fundamentally about dealing with the dangers of gulis (galus).
ad kan divrei somejew.
in other words , even if you do not have other ways of saving yourself ,and the only way of saving yourself and your family is by [defensive] violence, even if said violence would actually save your and your families’ life, you are OBLIGATED to die ,and let your family die, according to halacha , no holek, halacha lema’aseh !
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then somejew was confronted
with a clear psak in sh’a , tur , rambam , based on clear gemara
mandating self defense even bimkom hillul shabat.
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so we get to somejew’s psak level two [copy and paste]
“If there is an imminent threat to the life of a jew, one is allowed to stop the murderer, even in galus.
That is also allowed on shabbos, because of p/n.”
now somejew is already matir to use defensive violence to save oneself from death.
but he still prohibits [on the pain of death] to organize an ‘army’ to stop the murderer .
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somejew theorizes that a group of three individuals might be considered an ‘army’ already.
but he clearly ignores that in sh’ aruch the issue is about a multitude coming to attack and that the defense is consisting of a multitude too.
besides that, shulhan aruch is talking about other yishuvim which are nocheh lehikavesh if the first yishuv would fall .
so we are clearly talking here about resistance to kibush , which means organizing an army to resist a kibush
and shulhan aruch kayadu’a only talks about issues of relevance in galut.
add one plus one and you get two
SH’A was matir in galut to organise oneselves in self defense to save lives.
when you look in gemara eiruvin 45A it says very clearly that r nachman ,residing within galut bavel , says that neherda’e is a border town and one should employ community wide organised self defense of neherda’e , to shield all Jewish communities in Bavel from being conquered by their enemies , in order to save lives.
in short – organised jewish self defense at work within galut because of pikuach nefesh , halacha lemaaseh .
this is brought in mishneh brurah , shulhan aruch, tur and rambam , no holek whatsoever.
its mutar , no , sorry, not mutar ,
mandatory.
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a talmid of hafets hayim quoted a haskafic etsa tova from hafets hayim spoken to his audience in poland where organised self defence would not have the desired effect so H’H discouraged them from going down the path of self defense.
that is not a halachic ruling , nor is it applicable outside those specific circumstances.
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maskana –
pikuach nefesh clearly overrides any existing halachik shavu’ot prohibitions [if they exist at all – cf avnei nezer sof YD that they never even existed]
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it is time that somejew and katan should relearn those relevant sugyot without any preconceived notions
before they resume their self appointed role as spokesman of the whole haredi community.
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