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To Katan:
You can make up whatever stories you want, you can even make poskim like shulhan aruch and avnei nezer totally disappear .
The IDF is shmad for the people actually smadded and the people liable to be shmadded. For the other people it is not shmad.
So for the other people it is mutar.
In addition , the issues of the three oaths are not applicable to the IDF as it is clear as day to anyone to whom reality matters one bit, that IDF laying down its weapons , is chvsh a death sentence for untold number of our own brothers.
Therefore we can summarize that the so called Zionist army is , besides osek in the hatzala of klal yisrael , is also osek in three of the inviolable prohibitions: idolatry, immorality and spilling blood – and shmad
And your nonsense about the oaths is just that. The major Poskim throughout the ages, like tur shulhan aruch and nosei keilim, have ruled that the oaths are not in force, because they learnt the relevant gemara like avnei nezer.
The oaths are clearly not in force halachically , which is why the overwhelming majority of haredi talmidei hahamim clearly act that way .
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