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“Who’s right? humans that have an agenda driven need for power or Gods word?”
Thats an easy one, In orthodox judaism humans are right
This is explicit in many sources classsic example being the tale of the oven of achinai in BM 59b “Lo bashamayim hi” Torah is not in heaven it was given to man. (of ciourse the phrase is a verse)
This is a pretty basic point in Orthodox Judaism. and is nt controversial .
You can believe whatever you want but you arent going to convince any Orthodox Jews – by definition, that you are right.
UJM/Halevai
I don’t understand why wrap would get a beracha. I dont understand the difference between a wrap and a icecream cone (non-sugared) wraps are tasteless plain and never eaten plain. it is just a holder for food, why does it require a beracha at all
IF anything its less than ice cream cone, ice cream can be eaten in a cup people choose cone – yet most poskim/berachos books say still no beracha on plain ice cream cone. why is a plain barley edible wrap different?
(Ive asked aroung never got a clear answer , usually its along the lines of “takeh if people don’t eat it plain then should be no beracha – good point, but people do eat them plain no? and some taste good? no ?” )