fakenews
“Are you trying to argue that a wrap (and an ice cream cone for that matter) is only L’dabeik and therefore tafeil?”
So no. 1) I’m asking not trying to convince others Nobody agrees with me, and I’m not a baki so I assume I’m wrong I just dotn really understand why
2) Ice cream cone is nt controversial, Most say plain cones dont get a beracha .
“IIRC, Hamotzi/Mezonos are never tafeil (except when the grain is only L’dabeik).”
You do not recall correctly. See MEchaber 212:1 when eating salty fish with bread, bread only eaten not to harm throat make a shehakol. MB limits this to when you have no interest in the bread/cracker at all, however if have some interest then make hamotzi/mezonos even though its “tafel”
Which I guess brings us to Halevai’s point “but pretty sure it’s because it is filling. ” If thats the case 100% needs a beracha probabl yhamotzi
Do you know if it depends on indiidual? OR do we say look at most people?