To all you “chassidim” from the “heimishe oilam”:
the mitzvah tontz DOES NOT come from the machzor vitri! it comes from the gemnora, and it is Keitzad merakdim lefnei hakallah. the machzor vitri calls THAT the “Mitzvah Dance”! that DOES NOT include dancing with a women, your wife or other, which is what the mitzvah tonz is. i have been to manny weddings where they have one, and the girl tends to have no clue,(and i have worked at REALLY CHASSIDSHE WEDDINGS) and she gets up and start fumferting around, yes it isnt really dancing in the horah-type way, but it can be concieved as dancing non-the-less. rebbes use a gartel 15 feet long, and the kallah stays put on a chair, and that is only if it is the rebbes daughter, otherwise no gartel is used at all.
the reason why lubavitch and litvish dont do it is because we feel it is assur al pi halacha! a rosh yeshiva not being mesader kiddushin if it is done, i have never heard of, and my rosh yeshiva is a kalta litvak, and i have been to chassonahs where major roshei yeshiva were messader, and there was a mitzvah tonz after, they just get up and leave, if they haven’t already left by then. i did not have one, as it was not MY minhag, regardless of my father in laws minhagim, it made no difference,. when a badchen was hired, i had him unhired. how dare chassidim try to ram their minhagim down our throats. it is disrespectful, as is making comments about my child’s hair because it is cut before 3 years of age. im sorry if my son should look like a male, and not some shaygetz hippie!
chassidishe minhagim have alot of problems, not only mitzva tonz. putting up segulas in cribs of new borns, upsherin, wearing rabbeinu tam tefilin when not worthy (there is no way that by being born to a father who came from a town in hungary or chassidih poland, you are now holy enough to wear rabbeinu tams), not sitting in a succah on shminey atzeres, not wearing tefillin on chol hamoed, and the list goes on and on, not to mention daveing nusach sfard which is it best a nusach that was invented at best 200-300 years ago, depending on the chassidic sects version you daven!
trust me when i say the litvish have very good reasons for not doing these things, the chassidim are the ones who have to give answers to questions! I’m sick and tired of chassidim smashing the litvish because we don’t do all these minhagim you invented 200 years ago, while most of the litvish minhagim, your own ancestors did going all the way back to the baalei tosafaos!
before all you ppl start to say how litvish this and litvish that, just remember ALMOST ALL major mekomei torah in Europe were LITVISH! mir, ponevich, kamenitz, brisk, telz, slabodka, volozhin, kelm, baranovich, novordhok, etc. the list goes on, so when a rosh eyshiva with a pedigree coming from those holy mosdos says it is assur to have a mitzvah tonz, no one may argue! yes you may have your minhagim that disagree, and that is fine for you, but not for us, so deal with it!