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zalman, it is well known that rav elchonon never called him an apikores. its a buba meisah. and the netziv, again ill say, and this is documented in the torah temimahs biography of the netziv, that if the holy volozhin yeshiva was only created to be there to teach rav kook, then it would have been enough. the netziv was known to wear teffillin all day, and his talmidim wanted to as well. he never allowed them to. when rav kook asked, he was given the ok, and the netziv told the rest of his talmidim that only a pure yerie shomayim can wear teffilin all day. but then again, the netziv was a nobody according to zalman. only the voyel moshe was ok in his book.

you want to talk about korach., go look at rashi there, it talks about oy lerosho oy leschaino, and neturei karta, who are mamesh reshoim gamur, besides being mechalelei shabbos, since there are pictures of them carrying on shabbos, using bull horns at a rally in iran, are very close to satmer, and even use yoyoel moshe as their bible for hatred of fellow jews (though their actions put their jewishness into question). and the crc, the satmer hechsher, that puts ads in teh ny times, and has billboards up on highways how medians yisroel isnt jewish, are you going to say this a jewish thing, to air our machlokesin to the goyim? satmer are all nuts, they have gone off the deep end. yes ,reb yoel was a zaddik, but his grandchildren are petty, and cause major chillulei hashem. its all on youtube, go look for it, the supreme court cases, and the stuff they were claiming about eachother. pathetic. this stuff you never see in teh mizrachi movement. all gedolim, even agudist, are considered to them toras emes. they do learn voyel moshe in alot of the mizrachi yeshivos, but i doubt rav kooks seforim are learned in satmer.

zalmen, youre a fool to think that reb yoel was in the majority, he wasnt. maybe umongst hungarian rebbes, who like to live in 1780. but the litvish mehalech is to go with the present, and that is that the medina exists, and we have to live with it. rov kook was just as big as any godol of his day, only differance was he was a chief rabbi, which has halchic status as a nasi, so his psak held more weight then most. voyoel moshe had a little shtelar in uberland hungary, in waht actually was a litvish town up until ww1. yes he was a huge talmid chochom, but he wasnt a chief rabbi fo anything. his psak went for his chassidim, rav kooks for the entire english mandate of palestine, which actually included jordan as well!