well, I am not sure what I should add to all of the above comments. Matisjohu,who is actually totally ignorant of halacha, and zalman ,who thinks that vajoel moshe is moshe rabbeinu’s torah, are so far off the real yiddishe derech that we should leave them at their folly. I’ll just comment on a couple of stupid comments by them.
“There were no gedolim in mizrachi”. mmm. you never heard of the netziv, I imagine. or Rav Kook (as mentioned) or Reb Meshulam Rath zz’l -who paskened to say hallel on jom haaztmaut- or Rav zevin zz’l, who called jom haatsmaut a jom tov- or Rav Zvi Hirsch kalisher zz’l. I am not even mentioning Rav goren and many others today. All this talk about gedolim has everything to do with politics anf nothing with gadlus.
As far as the controversy on Moshiach. All of the postings ignore the simple gemoro, upon which the Rambam is founded: ” ein bein oilam hazeh le’jemos hamoshiach elu shibbut malchios bilvad”. (gemoro sanhedrin and according to shmuel)
It is crystal clear from the gemoro and the rambam that moshiach is a lving person and nothing- NOTHING- will be different in jemos hamoshiach except the “yoke of the oppressors” -exactly as it is today!
SO, why can’t moshiach die? if ‘jemos hamoshiach’ continues to be a natural world, why indeed can’t moshaich die, the midrash of dan nothwithstanding.There are other opposing midrashim,including the gemoro itself.
I am not saying anything about the person of Moshaich or about the rebbe zz’l, but all of you go directly against the gemoro and the rambam. But I imagine you don’t care, because your torah is”vajoel moshe” (which I did learn ,incidentally)
Let me throw a live grenade in this whole deabte about the “evil zionists’ the neturey karta.etc…WHy did Hashem Ysiborach punish primarily the chareidim? Most of the Polishe yidden were frum ,certainly many of the litvishe ydden were of chareidi persusasion and especially the hungarian jews were extreme chareidim. Hakodesh Buroch huh punished these communities the most. (remember, the hated German “reform’ jews escaped with their lives-as most were expelled, not killed) Why???? Just ask yourself that question and then read Rav Teichtal zz’ l sefer ‘ Eim habonim semeichah”
Matisjohus words are the worst and the most ignorant. One example- he flatly denies the right to women/girls to learn gemoro. OK, can you give the mekor for this???? We’ll see if you know anything beyind “Vajoel moshe”