Reply To: Modern Music…..prohibited?

Hakatan, I don’t have the time to enter into a long drawm out debate with you (as I have in the past with Joseph).

You believe that every godol is infallible. I do not. You think that the chareidim have the only word on everything. I do not. You ignore history and avoid looking at the truth ,I only look at the truth.

These differences are irreconcilable.

Yes, I believe that Zionism was the instrument yo bring us back to Eretz Yisroel, and, in spite of the obvious shortcomings,is clearly Hakodesh Boruch Huh’s work. You think that it “was and is a massive disaster for the Jewish people”. How you reconcile THAT statement with the truth is beyond my understanding. Obviously, your eyes do not convince you.

You write that “no amount of good that comes out of it makes it worth listening to”. Quite obviously, you never heard of “Eis laasos lashem, hefeir torusechu”.

For your information, R”Moshe Feinstein clearly states that it is “muttar” to listen to his music, regardless of what his behavior might or might not have been.

The concept of “mitzvah habo-oh beaveira” is only for the one doing it, the results may very well be recommnedable.

Lastly, about the “girls coming to greet the young men on TU Be-av and Kippur was not a bar scene, I can assure you.” Apart from the fact that you were not there to tell us how it was, the gemoro clearly tells us ” Kol mi she-ein lo isho, poineh leshom”. Every one who did not have a wife, went there. It may not have been a bar scene, but it sure sounds like a singles weekend. (See also what the girls themselves said).

And, why would you say that such a meeting would provoke “taavah” but not marriage, something which is patently incorrect?

To conclude, anyone can listen to any music he/she likes. My point was that a lot of music that was frowned upon previously has been shown today to be of holier origins.