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lesschumras
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Joseph,

“Our ancestors in the middle Ages and in Eastern Europe were ( except for the 1%

of taslmedai chachamim ) were ignorant peasants living on shtetls who could barely read the Aleph Bais.”

These are your words that I asked you to source:

1. “Our ancestors were ignorant peasants.”

2. “Our ancestors could barely read the Aleph Bais.”

3. “They stayed frum out of habit.”

4. that ONLY 1% of those ignorant peasant ancestors of ours were “talmedai chachamim”

As I stated in my response and quoation from Aish’s website, The Jews of

Eastern Europe were left destitute ,depressed and religiously exhausted

after the series of pogroms and false messiahs. The educated elite were

not concerned. What Chassiddus offered to the masses is what made it

so poewerful and attractive and why the misnagdim fougt it so. Wher is

your proof that ” som jews joined a movement”?

Once given the chance, why did so many yidden leave frumkeit. Again, I don’t understand your logic.

I’m required to bring documentation, which you don’t believe and won’t

believe because it upsets your idealized world view. You also ddn’t adress my pointr that the reason the Gemara spends entitr masecjtas on how to deal with false

witnesses, people who cheat in business is because we are human beings, not perfect.If you want to believe It’s typical that you still refuse to back up your claims that I am wrong because you obviously can’t. You demand proof from others but will not do so yourself.

I’m done. There is no use talking to a wall.

5. “Once the civil restrictions were removed and Jews could live in the cities, the removal of the shtetl peer pressure meant that THE JEWS BY HABIT GAVE UP THEIR FRUMKEIT.”

You answered and documented none of these malicious and false allegations.

So please NUMERICALLY respond to each of these 5 questions separately.

It is obvious you cannot since it is rubbish