Bike, that is the best idea anyone around here had.
David_Breslouer, I never said people werent’ frum, I just said that the answer about what is prober is different in different communities. Ask this question in Teaneck or ask it in New Square and you know you will get different answeres. I definatally didn’t say that Teaneck isn’t frum.
BTW, if anyone is comparing Azi (who is probably a lovely child)to Avrahom Avinu, are you saying that a mesh tichel is avorah zara?