Reply To: Ku Klux Karta..or Ku Klutz Karta?

BS”D

That is why I won’t refer to them by any name that includes both Neturei and Karta. I’ve also called them Nutter Kartel and Neturei Creedmoor, Creedmoor being a mental institution in Queens, NY so if you don’t want Karta, take your pick of those 2. I know full well they have no right to the name Neturei Karta and if Reb Amram Bloy ZYA were alive now, I would probably consider myself a follower of his.

The first hijack was that of Moshe Hirsch which was a family dispute with his father in law R’ Katzenellenbogen, whose followers are the closest thing to those of Reb Amram but I think they too are loosely organized these days and attract a few bad elements.

The best information I have is that the Teheran Five and a Half and those who demonstrate alongside one or more of them are a collection of oisvorfen from communities as diverse as Vizhnitz, Satmar, Chaim Berlin, Skvere, and yes, YU, along with a couple of leftover Malochim who were not absorbed elsewhere. I won’t malign the various communities by noting which freak came from where but I think I know the score :).

I think Cohen in Manchester is in cherem as per the Manchester Beis Din unless the cherem was removed when he apologized. Freeky Freedy is in cherem in Vienna (not sure by which beis din); he is not allowed to shop in community stores.

They’re not shoitim al pi halacha though so they are subject to cherem if a beis din decides to act accordingly.