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cantoresq
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Joseph

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cantoresq, The Torah runs without cash. I have no idea (nor care) what you mean by that, but can assure you our Yeshivos and Talmedei Chachomim have thrived in poverty more so than in wealth.

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Joseph there are still people alive who well remmeber how Torah thrived in the poverty of Europe. Ask them how they enjoyed wearing second hand clothing given them by the kehilla. Ask them how enriching it was to beg for and “Ess Tog.” From among those who didn’t merit to learn in yeshiva, ask them how they liked being apprecticed out to learn trades at the age of ten or eleven. I can’t imagine that you actually believe that pre WWII young Jewish men sat and learned (or just sat and didn’t learn, or maybe just registered to sit and did neither) in the same proportions as exists today. In the 1930’s Mir had approximately 150 students, from 150 different communities. No single community could afford to send more than one boy to a yeshiva. Indeed in that enviornment Torah thrived. It thrived because Jews had the proper perspective about it. People who were selected and nutured to be engrossed in it full time were so sselected based uon their talents and apptitude. Thus did the yeshivot create great talmidei chachamim; only the cream of the crop were admitted. The rest of Jewry toiled in more this wordly pursuits. torah learning was no a social convention, but rather a sacred vocation. Post WWII it has become a perverse criteria for admittance into a truncated prostituted version of Orthodoxy.