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Tzipi – I’m trying to figure that out as well and keep bringing up the original post. What they are debating is a seperate issue and should get a new thread.
I have politely discussed a similar topic to Cantoresq’s above (supporting the many learners)
Joseph,I believe it was with you.
Joseph appears to be pro learning and learning only. It appears to me that he does not take into account those that work hard to generously support the learners.
Maybe it’s just just me?
My husband and I work hard to afford rent, food and family health insurance (and yes, my husband learns with a chevrusa). We live on a budget and are annoyed by those that take from the gov’t so the husband can learn and the wife can play mommy/housewife all day.
While I don’t live in Israel my close family does. All my relatives have done the army and they too find time to learn. Ive heard my aunt say that it is hard to see your 18yr old as a chayal when the neighbors kid (same age but, with payos) hangs out in front of the yeshivah all day.
Now maybe my situation is clarified for the readers.
Joseph,
In this day and age do you believe one can contribute to learning and working as well? We are lucky that we can listen to a shiur (IPOD, MP3, Internet, CD ,Tape) and read a safer at lunch or commuting to work. There is no reason for not earning a parnassah.
I have come to this conclusion about respecting others views. I can not change other people I can only change myself.I do not namecall or tell others that their views don’t count but, I do appreciate that when discussing an issue with Joseph you get a backup to his thoughts and not just called an apikores without an explanation.