notpashut – as long as the smiley is there, we can disagree 🙂
On a serious note – I am not saying hanging out at a bar is a great thing. But to proclaim this as a terrible, terrible thing???? If someone is an alcoholic its a terrible thing to go into a bar. If someone is using this as a way to meet women (and continue on an inappropriate path) then its a terrible thing.
To go to a bar every once in a while is not a terrible thing.
Intellegent, while I understand what you are saying, we all make judgement calls. So for some, going to a bowling alley is ok because they wont eat food. But I can tell you, I used to bowl quite a bit with my friends and we would see some very “unkosher” things going on at the bowling alley by “frum” people. So, going to a bar and drinking kosher beer (he said just having fun, not behaving wildly or flirting with women or anything) is not a terrible thing IMHO. But its ok to disagree with me because its opinion based.