Joseph: It IS funny that we keep saying the same thing.
Rabbi of Berlin: I take exception to an idea that you (and i think Poshut also) expressed in some of these posts. You say that “mistakes were made on bothe sides”. You may call me narrow-minded if you wish, but I think it is a desecration to the memories of the kedoshim, Tzaddikim when you say that, in addition to being fundamentally wrong. In my view, if the Rebbes and Tzaddikim discouraged people from fleeing Europe and instead to have bitachon, they were so guided by Hashem. In other words, it was Hashem’s will that their view be clouded and that they should not see the impending doom, (some did, of course, and convinced others to escape). They can not be faulted.
But to apply the same principal to the Zionists would be skewed, because they were not following Torah or Halacha. Their idealogy was flawed and their “mistakes” had an agenda. While the tzaddikim and rabbonim tried to lead their flock in the best way they knew how, the Zionists had an agenda, and anyone who stood in the way was not worth their time. One might say, their mistakes were “bemaizid”, while the former group sinned (if we can say that) “beshogeg”. Big difference there.