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rabbiofberlin
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I see that the issue of ‘daas torah’ rears its head every time. The posters who know me will know what my view is about this but I was truly astounded to read ‘tal’s words.

“My rabbonim are not wrong” she writes. NEVER???? Even Moshe rabbeinu was wrong at times…

“if you are true yrei elokim, it would not occur”. You mean to tell me that a Rov- or Godol, for that matter” never had a “takoloh’ ( failure) in his life???

To insist that the above two statements are truesmacks of another religion , not Judaism…..

And,BTW, many Gedolim supported Shabtai Zvi- did they not make a mistake? How about rabbi Akiva and Bar kochba?

My point in these forii has always been that we are all human-yes, human,tal- and only the Almighty is infallible. BTW- the gemoro that you quote has nothing to do with our discussion, It deals with the power of prayer and that the previous generations were alwyas better than us- a statement that I readily concur with.

Lastly, there are many rebbes (and the Chazon ish)who gave medical advice. I am pretty usre they were “anavim”.

Methinks- tal- that you are still ab it young!