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rabbiofberlin
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let me bring some sanity and civility to this subejct. First- apologies to squeak or anyone else that I may have offended. Once before,on this webiste, I let my emotions get the beter of me and I resolved to be more circumspect.

i am not sure wha the Ha! fro msqueak is/was but it would be useful to look at halacha in its context.befreo you attack me,please hearken.

oomis is clearly presenting actual events of some years ago. Regradless of squek’s protestations, I know, from first hand, that she is right and this was the custom years ago. Yet- squeak insists she is wrong.Is some room to reconcile both shittas?

Allow me to try. To lower the flame FOR NO PURPOSE AT ALL-on yom tov would be a melocho (lav).However, to lower a flame for ‘oichel nefesh” is mutter. Why should it be different than to light a flame? If you can light a flame for ochel nefesh (as even squeak agrees)why can’t you lower it,especially as there is mitoch -If you have a ‘zorech kzas” ? (Actully mitoch would not need even a zorech kzas except tosofos insists on zorech kzas).

years ago, fuel was expensive and leaving a flame high througout yom tov would incur great expense. By lowering the flame (not extinguishing) one uses “mitoch’ and it is a “zorech kzas” (actually sometimes a zorech harbeh).

i have no problem understanding that previous Poskim used this reason to use “mitoch ‘ and ‘zorech kzas”.

if today- you don’t mind paying the extra money and it is not a zorech anymore, you are welcome but allow the people who have done it for decades to continue using it.

In any case, lowering the flame while it is still cooking is certainly muttar according to most poskimg and hence, lowering the flame to the pilot can be done.

I will say that I, personally, leave a small flame on (not to the actual pilot)because then it is always possible to boil water or the like.

I do support sjsnyc in asserting that we should be more careful in our words.