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rabbiofberlin
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PM- before I respond, I truly am thankful to you and the others. This has been an exhilarating few days, bringing me back to delve into sugyas…”tirdas hazman’ clearly prevets us to do this sommtime…

The Rambam and subsequebt lechem mishne ins in hilchos shabbos perek 5 ,nishne 12, dealing with “li jiten odom shafoferes”. The lechem mishne is pretty clear about his interpretation of the Rambam. This is, of course, because the oil is in a different kli.

The shulchan aruch (265-1),on the other hand, considers this a real kibbui,although the oil is in a different kli. As said, it strains my logic to understand how it could be kibbui if the oil is not at all in touch with either fire or other fuel…but “mah e-eseh?”

Your conclusions are correct. However, no one in this thread 9not even oomis0 said that yo ucna lower the flame to the pilot light gratuitiously. I said that, when finishing cooking, you cna lower the flame anyway to preserve the food and ,while doing that, then you can turn it down to the pilot light.The kibbui is oichel nefesh but you still have a flame if yo uant to use afterwards again for warming or cooking. All this, even if you do not consider it gram kibbui.