Joseph, As you so rightly assume, I like you, & I agree with you, but after reading through most of the posts, I have to say, I will not get into bringing M’koirois for everything although there are many more to bring down, where it states very clearly the Isur of shaking hands, simply because you’ll never finish arguing with the ones that are looking to do it! I also don’t want to get personal with anyone. But I do have a few comments, 1)Please be careful with your choise of words as they could be misunderstood, like your allowed to embarrass a Goi, I know what you meant, but some might not. Now I’m writing to everyone, 2)It’s not hard to get a Heter today for anything from a “Rav”, including women Davening for the Omud or worse things that I do not want to mention. 3)When the words “reportedly” are used about a P’sak, I’m dumbfounded. 4) Let’s not forget the G’morah on V’yad L’yad Loi Yinokeh, or, Hamistakel B’etzbah K’tanoh Shel Ishoh, and even if it is Muter,what about V’asu S’yug Latoirah? 5) To say women are differant, Chas V’sholoim, if anything, they are worse,(again I’m not getting into bringing referencess or the words written), 6) Who are they afraid to embarrass, the other person? NO! rather “themselves” 7)I have a huge house Boruch Hashem full of guest at all times & I have a list of rules outside the door that includes quite a few on Hilchois Tz’ni’us & no one has yet had a problem with it or gotten embarrassed. Please, I don’t want anyone to think that I am a Fannatic, I’m not! Most of my house is full of people that are not Chassidish or Yeshivish, also see what an impression I give, on the topic of “when parents don’t want a Shidduch”, Avol, Yikoiv Hadin Es Hohor, V’al Yisbayesh Mipnai Hamal’igim Olov Ba’avoidasoi Yisborach Sh’moi, applies by both posts, even if 1 sounds as if it’s from the right & the other as if from the left
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